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  Send prayers ,good vibes for TRev.Linda's gone

  by mouthy in

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  to a better place he needs out love more than ever now

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  (((((Trevor)))))

  So sorry, so difficult to express in words.

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  Will they disfellowship or not - cast your bets here!

  by dobbie in

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  so someone in my hubbys family who has been shunning me and i have not been able to see her kids etc and said it was my choice to leave so i must accept the consequences etc has been caught out.

  she's had three affairs over the last two years, with both sexes plus watching porn sex toys etc .

  anyway its her final jc meeting tonight, so do you reckon (and she has told them she can't say it definately won't happen again!

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  Definate pattern there. I think they will cut her loose. They say a pattern shows you're not repentant.

  Really none of their business though, stupid kangaroo courts by even more stupid little men.
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  What is the key that unlocks the mental grip of the WT?

  by LennyinBluemont in

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  ive wondered this from time to time, especially in trying to figure out how i finally broke free and in looking at the stories of others.

  if you asked me a few years ago, i probably would have said either seeing too much hypocrisy or suffering the last straw of spiritual and/or emotional abuse.

  but i know in my case and others, even that wasnt enough to break the mental shackles.

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  Breaking away from the pattern of being a jw is the first step to leaving it all behind. The constant activity is there for a reason and that's to keep one from having time to really contemplate things.

  This has to be followed up with knowledge and careful thought, as we all know walkaway believers who have not been in a hall for ages. Yet, they will defend the teachings to the end.

  The third step is to start creating a life outside the organization. The more you are around normal people, the more you realize how abnormal the jw relationships are. If a person can successfully do these three things, the chances are very good they will never return to the mind control of the borg.

  I know, this is all easier said than done. But, as Purps said, we are the pioneers.
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  Come on people! Can we inundate this paper with protests?

  by Shawn10538 in

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  i mean, there is so much bullshit talk on this site, and every time there comes up an opportunity to take some action, you all just wus out.

  what will it take for you all to get a spine and do something?

  write a letter or email to this paper and let them know how you feel about their article.

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  Good reply posted now by a Michael Dean from Long Beach, CA. Anyone here write this?
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  Come on people! Can we inundate this paper with protests?

  by Shawn10538 in

  1. watchtower
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  i mean, there is so much bullshit talk on this site, and every time there comes up an opportunity to take some action, you all just wus out.

  what will it take for you all to get a spine and do something?

  write a letter or email to this paper and let them know how you feel about their article.

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  Done. I did not leave contact info though, so I can't get any feedback.
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  green handshakes

  by DaCheech in

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  we had a big time honcho do a talk today ( i cannot give the details ).

  after the meeting elder a&%&$ was going around and to me also to ask for donations to this fella!!!.

  can you believe the balls!!.....

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  My husband used to give those green handshakes freely, COs,DOs, pioneers, you name it. I always wondered why they couldn't take care of themselves. We didn't have a lot of money and had 3 kids to raise.

  I have never heard of someone going around and asking, though. They did strongly encourage it at the secret elder meetings.
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  I need some serious informational help from EVERYONE!

  by Thedirtysecret in

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  i am new here and i joined honestly to collect information to understand something a little better.

  my boyfriend, well-now kinda boyfriend (were at a weird place) is a jehovah's witness and i am not.

  he waited a little "far" into our relationship to tell me he was, which created a mess, honestly an emotional dyfunctional mess.

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  He is lying to you and everyone else in his life. This is because he is in a cult. Unless he agrees to do some researching about the witnesses, it is time to end the relationship. He may very well be using you to get sex and later decide to marry a witness who is a virgin aka "good girl". I have seen it happen too many times. It is time to have a serious discussion and then all lying and pretending must stop. If not, move on as it will only go downhill from there.

  You are not a 'dirty little secret". His behavior is very much so a "dirty little secret." This is probably not what you wanted to hear, but you can see from the responses you got that it is pretty much what's going on.

  I wish you the best in life and not being good enough to take home to his parents just doesn't fit that picture.
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  BIG NEWS!

  by deaconbluez in

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  i have been approved to write the cover story for local newspaper about jehovah's witnesses.

  it can't be any more than 2,500 words.

  this newspaper has a huge reader-base.

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  It might be good to point out the clean, respectable image of the jws that most have come to know when they are visited at their door by jws. Start the article out about their positive image. Then ask if the reader knows about the hidden side of jws such as the recent pedophile lawsuits and the gag order and the 2 witness rule they insist upon to take child abuse seriously.

  Then, as time allows, you could write about how they discourage college education for their youths and possibly the inconsistencies of the jws using the blood banks, but being banned from donating.

  Whatever you decide, please let us know how it goes and let us see the finished product.
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  letter from my MOM(response to COC)

  by purplesofa in

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  purplesofa, .

  thanks for sharing this book with me.

  although i'm sure this book is accurate and these things have happened within the governing body, it did happen a long time ago and even the "annoited" are imperfect men.. after alot of thought and prayer i chose to stay a witness- an active witness to my ability which is now limited.

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  I do think it is less likely for older ones to make big changes in life. There was always a scarcity of older ones getting baptized at conventions and assemblies. I don't think it is much different when it comes to leaving the borg. They tend to have less chances of establishing new friendships and we all know how hard that can be after leaving.

  That does not mean she will not recall some of the points in COC when more changes are made in the teachings and hurtful things are excused in the cong.

  Hey, you tried to help her. The rest is up to her. Keep in touch with her and carry on loving your family. Is this your first grandchild? Grandchildren are wonderful. Enjoy!
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  Does Fading from the Borg Lead to Deceit in Other Walks of Life?

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  please, please remember i am asking a question, not stating a fact.. .

  there appears to be many advantages to fading out of the 'truth' as opposed to a full blown "i don't believe it and i'm out of here regardless of consequences'' policy.. reading others postings and experiences here and my own local experiences i can truly see why many do so.

  i remember during the later stages of my still attending meetings talking to a couple who had stopped going to meetings a few years before.

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  I don't see fading as being deceitful. If you left any other church, job, organization, etc, all you have to do is leave. Maybe you would hand in a letter of resignation at your job. You usually make the reason for leaving acceptable to those who might hire you in the future. You don't say you hate your supervisor or the company is horrible. That is private information. You might say you are leaving for health, family or personal reasons. the rest is just plain none of their business.

  You also have many personal opinions about most people. Are you obliged to tell them you think they are less than intelligent, ugly, boring, fat, hypocritical and on and on? No, that is just your private thoughts or opinions and would make them feel pretty lousy. We all hold back personal thoughts and opinions daily. Is this dishonest or just respecting the dignity and feelings of others?

  The real problem starts with the fact that you are dealing with a cult. If this was not so, leaving would be a non-issue. We all join and leave various groups during our lives. Because you are dealing with a cult, you have to keep more thoughts and opinions private, as they mean to do you and your family harm by breaking up your family relationships. This is how a cult operates and your family is still operating under their control. So you hold back personal thoughts and opinions to spare their feelings and to minimize damage from the cult.

  So, who is really being deceitful? The ones who want to destroy your family even though they know what they are teaching is dubious, at best? Or you, the who would love to have a totally honest and open discussion, but cannot without the cult's blackmailing consequences?

  I am kind of tired of people following this cultish thinking and blaming those who won't play their games. My private thoughts/beliefs are mine alone unless I choose to share them with someone else. And that is at my discretion only. I refuse to hurt my family or others because some cult thinks they own the world, make that the universe.